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you are listening to inception radio

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network voice of the fringe majority

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this is carol carl with ufo headline

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tonight you might be able to find the

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constellation cepheus cepheus we'll just

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stick with what we usually hear cepheus

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that represents a king

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the constellation is faint but its

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distinctive shape makes it easy to

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locate if you're looking to the north on

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august and september evenings

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at nightfall cepheus appears to the

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upper right of polaris the north star

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then this constellation rotates around

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polaris in a counterclockwise direction

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during the night

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it swirls high over polaris after

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midnight and then sweeps to the left

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side around dawn

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cepheus resembles a stick house that

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house we all drew as children and

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children today are still drawing the

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square for the base triangle for the

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roof

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in the case of cepheus the tip of the

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roof is a star known as gamma cepheii or

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area that's spelled e-r-r-a-i

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and it points generally northward

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oh in the sky though northward well that

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always means toward the sky's north pole

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or toward polaris

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thus the roof of the house in cepheus is

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pointing mostly north even though as

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darkness falls that means it's pointing

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sideways and downward oh are we dizzy

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yet

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when things come back to normal we can

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later consult a sky chart the

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constellation cepheus the king will be

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right there find your way to

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ufoheadlinenews.com

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for all kinds of sky charts that show

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you the constellation of cepheus the

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king in greek mythology cepheus

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represents a king of ethiopia

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to find cepheus you might want to locate

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that more prominent constellation

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cassiopeia the queen she'll also help

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you steer your cyber sky ship in that

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direction so here's the bottom line let

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queen cassiopeia show you the way to the

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house of cepheus the king

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and you can chalk up another success for

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spacex here's the headline spacex

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successfully launches and recovers

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falcon 9 for crs 12. daryl etherington

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gets the byline here for techcrunch.com

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spacex has successfully launched yet

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another rocket this one carrying a

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dragon capsule loaded with over 6 400

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pounds of cargo destined for the

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international space station that makes

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an even dozen for iss resupply missions

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launched by spacex under the contract to

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nasa and this is the most significant

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thus far in terms of potential

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scientific impact

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crs 12's payload was over 75 committed

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to hauling equipment and material for

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astronauts on board iss but this was

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intended more to set the stage for a

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range of experiments to be conducted by

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researchers on board the iss during this

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year and in 2018

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there's even something called an ar

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system on board designed to help

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astronauts improve their general

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the rocket successfully launched from

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eastern daylight time and dragon

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deployed from the second stage as

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dragon will rendezvous with the iss on

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august 16th for capture by the station's

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canadarm ii robotic appendage after

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earth after leaving the international

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space station with about three thousand

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pounds of returned cargo on board and

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splashed down in the pacific ocean for

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recovery there's another reason this

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launch was significant aside from the

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experimental payload which included a

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supercomputer designed to help humans

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travel to mars spacex will only use

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reused dragon capsules for all future

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crs missions the company is announced

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and that means this is the last time a

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brand new dragon will be used to

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resupply the iss if all goes according

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to plan

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the launch included an attempt to

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recover the falcon 9 first stage for

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canaveral roughly nine minutes after

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launch here's a delicious segue

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a very tasty treat is on its way to

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astronauts aboard the space station

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trevor mogg gets the byline for digital

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astronauts aboard the international

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space station are about to take delivery

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well they have at the time you're

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hearing this delivery of goods from a

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dragon capsule following another

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successful rocket launched by spacex at

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the kennedy space center this particular

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6400 pound delivery contains a bundle of

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science experiments that include a

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number of live mice

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but the astronauts probably have their

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mind on something else that's been

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packed inside the capsule something cold

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sweet and really rather tasty something

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they don't get much of in space

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we're talking ice cream who wants ice

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cream oh the unmanned dragon cargo ship

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is currently on its way to the iss and

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it has arrived of course by now it's

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then says trevor mogg who writes this

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that all hell could break loose on the

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space station as the crew scrambles to

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get at the freezer containing this icy

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treat

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packed into 30 small cups the ice cream

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flavors include chocolate vanilla and

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birthday cake presumably that particular

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one is for newly arrived american

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astronaut randolph bresnik randy bresnik

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who turns 50 in september

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deliveries to the iss of regular ice

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cream not that nasty freeze-dried

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astronaut ice cream don't happen every

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day and so the current space station

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crew is in for a real treat as long as

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they like ice cream that is

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by coincidence or design there's also

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another kind of ice cream heading to the

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space station aboard the dragon

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it's actually a scientific experiment

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which is called the cosmic ray

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energetics and mass

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cream

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see what they did there

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the three-year experiment will measure

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the charges of cosmic rays with

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the quote fundamental questions about

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basic structure of the universe end

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quotes and that's nasa

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the last time we heard of iss astronauts

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getting excited about food was when they

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board back in 2015.

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no the excitement didn't come from their

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vegetable but instead because it was the

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it's not clear if nasa is working on an

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ice cream maker oh we're just picturing

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the good humor man in space all suited

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it's way back wednesday and we'll

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continue with our saga of cosmonauts

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generals and aliens but first in order

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to test the efficacy of our time machine

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for today we're going to wander back and

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forth our story about the aliens and the

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cosmonauts that takes place in 80 and

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81. let's go back to 1930 shall we

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here's a headline ufo 1930

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an alabama family account

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well this is cheryl costa so settle back

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and enjoy

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she writes this for her column new york

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skies ufo blog which appears in the

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syracuse new times and cheryl writes

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this in the first person so here we go

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during the four years i've been writing

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this blog i've noticed that some ufo

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accounts citing accounts seem to be

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handed down within families like family

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heirlooms

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a particular 1930 account caught my eye

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because of its heritage aspect the ufo

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sighting account happened in the town of

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waterloo alabama in lauderdale county in

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the late fall of 1930.

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first some background

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lauderdale county was named in honor of

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colonel james lauderdale of tennessee

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lauderdale county is located in the

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northwestern corner of alabama which

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borders tennessee to the north and

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mississippi to the west

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according to the census the county has

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an ancestral mix mostly rooted from all

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over the british isles and of course

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during the cotton boom of the early and

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mid 19th century lauderdale county was

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known principally for cotton and textile

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industrialization in the form of an iron

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tennessee valley authority to provide

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electrical power to rural areas made

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lauderdale county and small towns like

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waterloo grow substantially

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the population of waterloo was in the

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1930s about 497.

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and presently is only around 200.

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enter jesse a present-day adult

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grandchild of his ancestral observer he

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tells us that his now deceased

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grandmother was a teenager in 1930.

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jesse quote it was after dark perhaps

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and my grandmother and three other

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schoolmates were waiting in a car before

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an evening play or musical type

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performance at her school

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they were a bit early so they waited for

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someone to come unlock the school's door

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it's important to understand

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that at the time in rural alabama there

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was no such thing as street lights in

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remote areas where schools were located

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jesse continues quote shortly after

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pulling up by the school the occupants

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of the car saw a bright light that

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looked like a ball of fire

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my grandmother was in the back driver's

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side of the car

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and she said the light was approaching

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the car from the rear passenger side

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they all assumed it was a flashlight or

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a car headlight of someone to come and

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open the door to the school

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the light got brighter and it filled the

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car interior with light it was so bright

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my grandmother said it was as bright as

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daylight end quotes

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over the years the woman shared her

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consistent description with her children

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and grandchildren

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quote it was a bright glowing ball about

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the size of a basketball it floated by

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our car about two or three feet away

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jesse said and she recounted how quote

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it moved forward on the rear passenger

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side from about four feet above the

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ground

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it moved at the speed of a slow walk and

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it was completely silent end quotes

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jesse said his grandmother and her

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friend were so terrified that neither of

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them would get out of the car but as the

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story goes she related that the two boys

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in the car got out and followed the

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glowing ball of fire as it meandered

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into the woods

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the boys came back after a few minutes

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and said it had disappeared

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quote the sighting perplexed all who saw

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it

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later as adults her friends recalled the

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citing event many times over the

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following years end quote said jesse

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from 2001 to 2015 lauderdale county

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alabama reported a total of 28 ufo

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sightings mind you reported sightings

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23 of them were reported in the regional

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area of florence waterloo is part of the

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florence muscle shoals metropolitan area

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also known as the shoals

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so

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following cheryl we'll keep our eyes on

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that area small population lots of

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reports and that generational siding

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factor always interesting there are

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those who guess it's something in the

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dna

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here's a sighting from erie pennsylvania

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well they only spell it with one e e r i

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e but it still sounds like eerie the

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date of this sighting

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1975 november 18th

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it wasn't reported until august 11th

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this year it's mufon case number 85848

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here's the summary and it is what they

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call a memory flogger folks tv and

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cultural reference wise

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here's what the witness says

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settle down to watch barney miller on tv

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noticed lights through windows got up to

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sea

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and vehicle turned southwest and hovered

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for a half an hour

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went back to watch barney miller show

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was over i know what i saw

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and we're thinking he's referencing the

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sky not the tv show

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citing specifics give us a viewing

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distance of 101 feet to 500 feet the

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altitude 500 feet or less

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the sighting duration 31 minutes

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this object seemed to feature windows

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the flight path was hovering then path

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a path then hovering and this object was

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shaped like a disk meteorology wasn't an

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impact at all there's none reported here

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but here's the sighting

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it was in 1975

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november a thursday night a school night

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i was settling down to watch barney

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miller that sitcom yep a detective show

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we had a large bay window in our front

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room

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i was distracted by what looked to me

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like headlights shining through the bay

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window

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and i thought to myself who would be on

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the gas line trail this time of night

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that trail was a popular four-wheeler

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trail snowmobile trail however there

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wasn't any snow on the ground

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i got up to see what was going on

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i was watching this coming from the

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northeast it turned toward the southwest

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that's when it turned that i could see

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the broad side of a red glowing object

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i went onto the front porch and observed

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this craft floating across our fields

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the fields of our farm

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it was red glowing and i could see a

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craft through that glow

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it had windows and beings on board three

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i watched the object until it floated

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out of sight

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i was pretty distraught i was shaken

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the summer's biggest duo are feeling the

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love give up that wheel have you ever

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said please please why are we always

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yelling ryan reynolds raves sam jackson

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as obnoxious in every way

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can't someone just taser them samuel l

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jackson calls ryan reynolds

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extraordinarily annoying not a fan how

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about we never speak at this again and

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selma hayek proclaims there is one thing

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you should know sam and ryan need to

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stop flirting and get a room already

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what really the hitman's bodyguard rated

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r under 17 not admitted without parent

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now playing however the chill from the

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crisp november night finally made me

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realize i was cold and i'd better go

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back inside

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i was completely mesmerized i couldn't

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seem to take my eyes off this object

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but i went back inside the house and

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barney miller was over so i had watched

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this object for half an hour

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i know what i saw and nothing can

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convince me it was anything but a craft

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that originated somewhere else off

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planet thank you for your time

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i've only told this story to very close

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friends and that was when i realized

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that i was losing a lot by telling the

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story but i'm too old to care what other

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people think take it for what it was

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oh well said

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and losing a lot by telling the story we

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have to get rid of that attitude this

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witness came forward finally after all

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these years what a good feeling that

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must be

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and what a fascinating feeling it must

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have been for the russian cosmonauts to

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relate their strange happenings in space

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it's way back wednesday part two

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headline russian cosmonauts and generals

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confirm ufos are real this information

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was correlated brought to

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ufoevidence.org website michael hessmann

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is the principal researcher here he

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spells that h-e-s-e-m-a-n-n

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and here's something about michael

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hessmann he was born in dusseldorf

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germany he studied history and cultural

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anthropology at gottingen university in

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germany and currently lives in

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dusseldorf and rome

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his books are international bestsellers

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he's produced several award-winning

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documentaries and worked as an advisor

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for tv shows such as the x-files

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sightings and encounters michael

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hessmann is a regular guest on several

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radio shows in the united states and

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mexico including whitley strieber's

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dreamland

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the 20th century show with bob

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hieronymus and the hilly row show and in

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mexico tercer millennial he was the

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first western researcher who published

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the kgb files on quote anomalous aerial

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phenomena and quotes officially released

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to him he interviewed united states

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astronauts gordon cooper and edgar

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mitchell and several russian cosmonauts

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so we're back in picture this if you

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will gentle listeners a lecture at the

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international ufo congress in laughlin

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nevada march 6 2002. michael hessman is

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presenting filmed interviews with four

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soviet cosmonauts and four high-ranking

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soviet generals we'll hear from a couple

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of said generals and cosmonauts

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a brief recap

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between may 14th and may 18 1981

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cosmonauts vladimir kavlianik and viktor

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savinki supposedly established contact

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with an object of unknown origin and its

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occupants

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at the time the cosmonauts were working

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on board the solute 6 orbital station

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this object seemed to be half the size

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of the solute six which was about eight

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meters in size

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that ufo remained in position for the

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rest of the day and the next day was

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only a hundred meters away at that

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distance the cosmonauts were able to get

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a better look they couldn't see anything

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that indicated some source of propulsion

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nothing they could detect would have

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given the ship an impulse to get closer

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this ship had 24 windows on three levels

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and the cosmonauts could also see three

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humanoid creatures inside creatures

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wearing helmets but they could still see

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their faces big eyebrows straight noses

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and big blue eyes eyes that didn't

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express any emotion in fact according to

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the cosmonauts none of the muscles of

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the faces of these creatures was moving

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all their movements seemed normal but

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somewhat mechanical artificial

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so contacting their version of houston

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the cosmonauts requested permission from

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earth to try some visual and physical

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contact

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cosmonaut cavaliana grabbed and opened a

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map of the universe and held it toward

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the beings

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they answered by opening their map which

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seemed to be much more precise more

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complete

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the occupants of the other craft pointed

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to the solar system inside the milky way

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and then kovalyanik made a positive sign

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with his hands the beings answered with

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the same gesture

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and then the spaceship went away very

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fast but soon came back

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the ship repeated this action six times

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in all with no clear reason and then at

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that point using a powerful flashlight

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kovalyanik tried to communicate via

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morse code he signaled quote soviet

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cosmonauts salute earth visitors and

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quotes in russian

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no understanding there so he tried the

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signal in english saying are you

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receiving us

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no answer again

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and then he tried to use binary language

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he signaled one zero one one zero one

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with his flashlight and astonishing the

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message in return wasn't a simple answer

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it used a logarithm to the base used by

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kovalianik the next day the beings were

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flying outside the ship again upon

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requesting permission to disembark that

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permission was denied by the fourth day

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the ship simply vanished the upshot of

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this extraordinary contact was that on

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june 18th 1981 the gaz plan the economic

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council of the then soviet union called

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an extraordinary meeting several soviet

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authorities ufologists and cosmonauts

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attended that meeting and kovaleonic

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presented the video he filmed 45 minutes

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long showing the ufo and its beings

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there were other sightings by cosmonauts

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such as things that appear to be

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beautiful christmas tree decorations

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seen over newfoundland bright shiny

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glittering there were two golden spheres

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seen by another cosmonaut let's hear

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from soviet air force cosmonaut general

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pavel romanovich popovich

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quote i had only one personal encounter

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with something unknown something we

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could not explain

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this was in 1978 on a flight from

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washington to moscow we were flying at

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an altitude of 30 600 feet and suddenly

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when i looked out through the windshield

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i noticed something flying about 4 500

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feet above us on a parallel course

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a glowing white equilateral triangle

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resembling a sail

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since our speed was 600 miles per hour

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that triangle must have had a speed of

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at least 900 miles per hour since it

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overtook us

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i called the attention of all passengers

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and crew members about this object

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we tried to find out what it was but all

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attempts to identify it as something

555
00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:34,559
known ultimately failed

556
00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:36,960
this object looked like a ufo and it

557
00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:39,120
remains unidentified

558
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:41,039
it did not look like an airplane since

559
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it was a perfect triangle

560
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:45,280
at that time no airplane had such a

561
00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:46,480
shape

562
00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:48,960
and now a quote from the head of the

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general zhukov high command academy of

564
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:54,159
air defense in tivor russia former high

565
00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:56,720
commander of air defense for the far

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00:23:01,590 --> 00:22:58,559
east a man by the name of colonel

567
00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:01,600
general gennady reshetnikov

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00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:03,919
he says quote yes there were

569
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,159
particularly mysterious occurrences

570
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:08,480
during military practice

571
00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:11,280
at times targets appeared on which

572
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:14,159
fighters in the air or radar set for

573
00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:15,679
anti-aircraft missiles trained

574
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:16,720
themselves

575
00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:18,720
but it was difficult to determine what

576
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:20,960
these were exactly

577
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:23,520
there were situations when a target

578
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:26,400
answered to the signal i'm your plane we

579
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:28,720
have such a system of inquiry

580
00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:31,039
or the other way around it wouldn't

581
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:32,400
answer at all

582
00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:35,679
it was considered incomprehensible

583
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:38,400
moreover i'm aware of situations when as

584
00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:40,480
planes which had been sent into the air

585
00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:42,559
were opening their side sites they

586
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:44,320
discovered a target

587
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:46,240
but upon reaching the determined

588
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,320
distance at which the automatic weapon

589
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:50,159
system which dispatched the missile

590
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:53,039
should have operated suddenly the system

591
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:54,559
broke down

592
00:24:00,070 --> 00:23:58,080
everything disappeared even the target

593
00:24:01,990 --> 00:24:00,080
or maybe the plane warped through space

594
00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:02,000
to another position

595
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,000
they would conduct another attack again

596
00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:06,400
the same result these were interesting

597
00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:08,799
and mysterious occurrences

598
00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:10,640
we try to take into account the problem

599
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:12,799
of ufos quite a bit of interesting

600
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:15,360
material has appeared and it's perfectly

601
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:17,760
obvious that this needs to be studied in

602
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:19,679
earnest and that it's necessary to

603
00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:21,760
address the question on a governmental

604
00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:22,880
level

605
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:24,559
right now people are more and more

606
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:27,200
inclined to believe that ufos exist

607
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:31,120
but what stands behind this he continues

608
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:33,679
a bit earlier at the end of the 1970s

609
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:36,720
and the start of the 1980s i flew into

610
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:38,720
the arctic circle to the place where

611
00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:41,039
eyewitnesses had seen some kind of

612
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:44,480
cigar-shaped apparatus with portholes

613
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:46,640
this was how the press in this area was

614
00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:48,080
describing it

615
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:50,559
this happened in the region of norsk

616
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:52,960
the object was seen several times

617
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:55,200
traces were discovered but no one

618
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:57,039
conducted any kind of serious research

619
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:57,840
there

620
00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:00,000
when this became known to me i flew

621
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:02,159
there in a helicopter in order to

622
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:04,240
examine the place we even traveled out

623
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:07,039
to the same place an extra time but we

624
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:08,799
didn't succeed in noticing anything

625
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:09,919
special

626
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:12,559
concerning the sending of airplanes in

627
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:14,320
particularly when we were in the

628
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:16,480
framework of the soviet union it's

629
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:19,120
necessary to say that battle duties were

630
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:21,679
kept up rigidly and we sent up planes

631
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:24,240
without all kinds of restrictions

632
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:26,240
now we send up planes very deliberately

633
00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:28,559
on account of economic conditions

634
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:31,039
but personally i many times ordered

635
00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:33,279
aircraft to determine if something is a

636
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:36,240
ufo or not they were unidentified

637
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:38,080
targets for us

638
00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:39,840
yes there have been several cases in

639
00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:41,840
which they turned out to be mysterious

640
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:44,000
unknown targets on which the different

641
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:46,720
detecting systems reacted including our

642
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:49,440
land sea and airspace surveillance

643
00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:51,120
sometimes our weapon systems were

644
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:54,400
activated because of these objects and

645
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:56,960
then there's this testimony from major

646
00:26:02,950 --> 00:25:59,360
general vasily alexey of russian air

647
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:02,960
force space communications center moscow

648
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:05,039
if we are speaking about my military

649
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:08,000
capacity it was in the 1980s when i

650
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:10,159
happened to be serving not in a regular

651
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:12,320
unit but in the central staff

652
00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:14,080
working in the central staff entails

653
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,480
close links with the units in the field

654
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:18,640
and a large amount of traveling there

655
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:20,799
were many reports from unit levels

656
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:23,520
regarding a large number of observations

657
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:25,919
of unexplained phenomena

658
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:27,760
you should bear in mind that at the time

659
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:29,600
much was simply denied

660
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:31,600
the subject was to a large extent a

661
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:33,120
closed one

662
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:35,760
on the ground however people wanted to

663
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:38,320
find out what was what to separate truth

664
00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:39,600
from fiction

665
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:41,200
in that period a lot of things were

666
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:43,360
presented in such a way that you lost

667
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:46,080
the desire to believe

668
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:48,320
accordingly an attitude to the subject

669
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:50,480
became established where not only was

670
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:53,760
there no desire to believe it was even

671
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:56,720
undesirable to believe

672
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:58,400
nevertheless the information coming in

673
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:01,039
from the bases was of interest if only

674
00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:03,120
because it was not merely talk and

675
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:05,360
rumors there were eyewitnesses to

676
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,440
phenomena and that was reflected in

677
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:09,679
specific documents and in reports from

678
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:10,799
officials

679
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:12,880
at times this information was of such a

680
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:14,960
fascinating nature that it was

681
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:17,760
impossible not to believe it

682
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:19,440
later the question no longer seemed so

683
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:20,480
fantastic

684
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:22,960
and began to be examined at the level

685
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:25,520
not only of the defense ministry but

686
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:27,840
other government departments as well

687
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:30,000
this interest specifically expressed

688
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:32,640
itself in certain experts being sent to

689
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:34,799
investigate especially to those places

690
00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:38,159
where ufos let's call them that appeared

691
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:40,880
quite frequently i know a whole number

692
00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:43,360
of military bases in that category as a

693
00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:45,679
rule they are of strategic significance

694
00:27:50,390 --> 00:27:47,840
rocket complexes scientific test

695
00:27:52,390 --> 00:27:50,400
establishments in other words the places

696
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:52,400
where there is a high concentration of

697
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:55,120
advanced science and to some degree

698
00:27:58,710 --> 00:27:56,399
danger

699
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,720
because every nuclear rocket every air

700
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,399
force installation represents a

701
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:02,399
breakthrough both in science and in

702
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:05,600
military terms it is first and foremost

703
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:08,880
a peak the summit of human achievement

704
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:12,080
and that is where ufos here appeared

705
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:13,520
fairly often

706
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:15,279
moreover individual officers and

707
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:17,520
commanders on the spot who knew about

708
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:19,360
the phenomenon and had no official

709
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:21,440
instructions on the matter acted on

710
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:24,720
their own initiative to investigate ufos

711
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:27,200
recording data and so on

712
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:29,120
i know that in some places they even

713
00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:31,679
learned to create a situation which

714
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:33,679
would deliberately provoke the

715
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,080
appearance of a ufo

716
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:38,399
a ufo would appear where there was

717
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:40,720
increased military activity connected

718
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:43,919
say with the transportation of special

719
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:45,039
loads

720
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:47,360
it was enough to artificially stimulate

721
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,080
or schedule such a move for a ufo to

722
00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:52,240
appear in other words

723
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:55,200
some kind of conditional relationship

724
00:28:59,669 --> 00:28:57,760
emerged and they detected it

725
00:29:00,870 --> 00:28:59,679
we're an intelligent nation nothing

726
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:00,880
escapes us

727
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:03,360
i know that at certain testing ranges i

728
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:05,200
won't name them although it's no longer

729
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:06,240
a secret

730
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:09,120
they even learned to make contact of a

731
00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:12,240
kind what did that consist of first the

732
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:14,559
ufo appeared in most instances as a

733
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:16,720
sphere but there were other kinds

734
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:19,039
contact was achieved with the help of

735
00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:21,360
physical indications of behavior

736
00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:23,600
pointing your arms in various directions

737
00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:26,320
say the ufo sphere would be flattened in

738
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:28,480
that direction raise your arms three

739
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:31,440
times the ufo would flatten three times

740
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:34,240
vertically in that direction as well

741
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:37,120
amazing contact you decide gentle

742
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,360
listeners thanks again to the man in the

743
00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:41,679
high castle for these wonderful links we

744
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:43,760
hope you've enjoyed way back wednesday

745
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:46,399
for now we gotta bounce because

746
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:48,559
that's a wrap thank you for listening to

747
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:50,799
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